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Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:19 pm
by Coral Maestro
StefanDuma wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:41 pm Ive known Bernard Caminade for more than 25 years and he has always produced some great books and he regularly updates them. Always full of information, somewhere I have his book on cane rods.
When was the book on cane rods published? I'm sure it's an interesting read.

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:00 am
by StefanDuma

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:27 am
by Mole-Patrol
Coral Maestro wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:18 pm
Mole-Patrol wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm Are those your reels acting as paper weights? A Doplerr, SAP / DEP and a Baby Vamp are on my wish list :drool:

I have paid for a SAP 704 but it hasn't arrived and they seller is not answering messages. I don't think it is a scam. More like the seller is on holiday. I am also in a friendly dispute with the author of your book. I ordered and paid for the companion book to yours. He sent me a much more expensive book on the early days of Mitchell reels. He is also on holiday and cannot resolve the matter for another fortnight. That is French life for you :Hahaha:
Yes, I'm very lucky to have found a few French gems. The Doperr is a great user reel and coped with a 30lb+ carp. The Crack is a bit on the heavy side for my liking, the Baby Vamp has some issues so hasn't been used and I haven't tried the SAP yet.
I've not seen a SAP 704, what do you plan to use it for?
Lucky you :drool:

The SAP 704 hasn't materialised. I got a refund with no explanation yesterday. As such I don't yet know what size it is, but I had hoped to use it for chub, roach, carp and barbel on a Chapmans 500. I understand that there are four model numbers, ending in 1 to 4 in full and half bail examples. But I don't know what the differences are. I am hoping that the book I ordered might shed some light on it. :tea:

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:43 am
by Coral Maestro
StefanDuma wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:00 am Here is a link

https://www.furet.com/livres/les-cannes ... 92970.html

You could also email Bernard

caminade.b@wanadoo.fr
Thanks for the info Stefan. It looks like the book might not be available at the moment but I'll keep a lookout.

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:53 am
by Mole-Patrol
Coral Maestro wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:43 am
StefanDuma wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:00 am Here is a link

https://www.furet.com/livres/les-cannes ... 92970.html

You could also email Bernard

caminade.b@wanadoo.fr
Thanks for the info Stefan. It looks like the book might not be available at the moment but I'll keep a lookout.
When Bernard gets back to me about returning the book I have received in error I will ask him if he knows where you could find one. I think he's on holiday until the 9th August so it will be after then.

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:35 am
by Coral Maestro
Mole-Patrol wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:27 am
Coral Maestro wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:18 pm
Mole-Patrol wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm Are those your reels acting as paper weights? A Doplerr, SAP / DEP and a Baby Vamp are on my wish list :drool:

I have paid for a SAP 704 but it hasn't arrived and they seller is not answering messages. I don't think it is a scam. More like the seller is on holiday. I am also in a friendly dispute with the author of your book. I ordered and paid for the companion book to yours. He sent me a much more expensive book on the early days of Mitchell reels. He is also on holiday and cannot resolve the matter for another fortnight. That is French life for you :Hahaha:
Yes, I'm very lucky to have found a few French gems. The Doperr is a great user reel and coped with a 30lb+ carp. The Crack is a bit on the heavy side for my liking, the Baby Vamp has some issues so hasn't been used and I haven't tried the SAP yet.
I've not seen a SAP 704, what do you plan to use it for?
Lucky you :drool:

The SAP 704 hasn't materialised. I got a refund with no explanation yesterday. As such I don't yet know what size it is, but I had hoped to use it for chub, roach, carp and barbel on a Chapmans 500. I understand that there are four model numbers, ending in 1 to 4 in full and half bail examples. But I don't know what the differences are. I am hoping that the book I ordered might shed some light on it. :tea:
The 704 is the economy model according to the book. It comes with a roller index pick-up and monobloc crank (Google translate!).
These are my SAP / Dep Savoy reels:
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The SAP 702
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The SAP 701
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The Dep Savoy produced 1943 to 1946 according to the book. The Dep Savoy in the book has a half bail but this is a full bail model. Unfortunately, it also has a bent shaft suggesting it might have been dropped at some time. The spool tensioner also looks to have been replaced.
Image
The SAP Mer 703 (sea reel). This reel has a skirted spool and PUM type pick up.
Image

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:43 am
by Coral Maestro
Coral Maestro wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:35 am
Mole-Patrol wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:27 am
Coral Maestro wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:18 pm
Mole-Patrol wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm Are those your reels acting as paper weights? A Doplerr, SAP / DEP and a Baby Vamp are on my wish list :drool:

I have paid for a SAP 704 but it hasn't arrived and they seller is not answering messages. I don't think it is a scam. More like the seller is on holiday. I am also in a friendly dispute with the author of your book. I ordered and paid for the companion book to yours. He sent me a much more expensive book on the early days of Mitchell reels. He is also on holiday and cannot resolve the matter for another fortnight. That is French life for you :Hahaha:
Yes, I'm very lucky to have found a few French gems. The Doperr is a great user reel and coped with a 30lb+ carp. The Crack is a bit on the heavy side for my liking, the Baby Vamp has some issues so hasn't been used and I haven't tried the SAP yet.
I've not seen a SAP 704, what do you plan to use it for?
Lucky you :drool:

The SAP 704 hasn't materialised. I got a refund with no explanation yesterday. As such I don't yet know what size it is, but I had hoped to use it for chub, roach, carp and barbel on a Chapmans 500. I understand that there are four model numbers, ending in 1 to 4 in full and half bail examples. But I don't know what the differences are. I am hoping that the book I ordered might shed some light on it. :tea:
The 704 is the economy model according to the book. It comes with a roller index pick-up and monobloc crank (Google translate!).
These are my SAP / Dep Savoy reels:
Image
The SAP 702
Image
The SAP 701
Image
The Dep Savoy produced 1943 to 1946 according to the book. The Dep Savoy in the book has a half bail but this is a full bail model. Unfortunately, it also has a bent shaft suggesting it might have been dropped at some time. The spool tensioner also looks to have been replaced.
Image
The SAP Mer 703 (sea reel). This reel has a skirted spool and PUM type pick up.
Image
All 3 models are a similar size.

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:47 am
by Mole-Patrol
Now I know why I can't find any decent French reels. You've got them all! :Hahaha:

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:21 pm
by Coral Maestro
Sorry! It's an obsession that I don't seem to be able to shake!

Re: Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:52 pm
by Olly
I have a couple of old '50s/60s' centrepin' reels used for 'Peche a la toc' ---- 2 sizes.