When was the book on cane rods published? I'm sure it's an interesting read.StefanDuma wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:41 pm Ive known Bernard Caminade for more than 25 years and he has always produced some great books and he regularly updates them. Always full of information, somewhere I have his book on cane rods.
Le Grand Livre des Moulinets Francais
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What do they know of fishing who know only one fish and one way to fish for him?
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Here is a link
https://www.furet.com/livres/les-cannes ... 92970.html
You could also email Bernard
caminade.b@wanadoo.fr
https://www.furet.com/livres/les-cannes ... 92970.html
You could also email Bernard
caminade.b@wanadoo.fr
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Lucky youCoral Maestro wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:18 pmYes, I'm very lucky to have found a few French gems. The Doperr is a great user reel and coped with a 30lb+ carp. The Crack is a bit on the heavy side for my liking, the Baby Vamp has some issues so hasn't been used and I haven't tried the SAP yet.Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm Are those your reels acting as paper weights? A Doplerr, SAP / DEP and a Baby Vamp are on my wish list![]()
I have paid for a SAP 704 but it hasn't arrived and they seller is not answering messages. I don't think it is a scam. More like the seller is on holiday. I am also in a friendly dispute with the author of your book. I ordered and paid for the companion book to yours. He sent me a much more expensive book on the early days of Mitchell reels. He is also on holiday and cannot resolve the matter for another fortnight. That is French life for you![]()
I've not seen a SAP 704, what do you plan to use it for?
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The SAP 704 hasn't materialised. I got a refund with no explanation yesterday. As such I don't yet know what size it is, but I had hoped to use it for chub, roach, carp and barbel on a Chapmans 500. I understand that there are four model numbers, ending in 1 to 4 in full and half bail examples. But I don't know what the differences are. I am hoping that the book I ordered might shed some light on it.
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Thanks for the info Stefan. It looks like the book might not be available at the moment but I'll keep a lookout.StefanDuma wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:00 am Here is a link
https://www.furet.com/livres/les-cannes ... 92970.html
You could also email Bernard
caminade.b@wanadoo.fr
What do they know of fishing who know only one fish and one way to fish for him?
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When Bernard gets back to me about returning the book I have received in error I will ask him if he knows where you could find one. I think he's on holiday until the 9th August so it will be after then.Coral Maestro wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:43 amThanks for the info Stefan. It looks like the book might not be available at the moment but I'll keep a lookout.StefanDuma wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:00 am Here is a link
https://www.furet.com/livres/les-cannes ... 92970.html
You could also email Bernard
caminade.b@wanadoo.fr
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The 704 is the economy model according to the book. It comes with a roller index pick-up and monobloc crank (Google translate!).Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:27 amLucky youCoral Maestro wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:18 pmYes, I'm very lucky to have found a few French gems. The Doperr is a great user reel and coped with a 30lb+ carp. The Crack is a bit on the heavy side for my liking, the Baby Vamp has some issues so hasn't been used and I haven't tried the SAP yet.Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm Are those your reels acting as paper weights? A Doplerr, SAP / DEP and a Baby Vamp are on my wish list![]()
I have paid for a SAP 704 but it hasn't arrived and they seller is not answering messages. I don't think it is a scam. More like the seller is on holiday. I am also in a friendly dispute with the author of your book. I ordered and paid for the companion book to yours. He sent me a much more expensive book on the early days of Mitchell reels. He is also on holiday and cannot resolve the matter for another fortnight. That is French life for you![]()
I've not seen a SAP 704, what do you plan to use it for?![]()
The SAP 704 hasn't materialised. I got a refund with no explanation yesterday. As such I don't yet know what size it is, but I had hoped to use it for chub, roach, carp and barbel on a Chapmans 500. I understand that there are four model numbers, ending in 1 to 4 in full and half bail examples. But I don't know what the differences are. I am hoping that the book I ordered might shed some light on it.![]()
These are my SAP / Dep Savoy reels:
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/5ECx6vr.jpg)
The SAP 702
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/P8qfvND.jpg)
The SAP 701
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/3H2bfFR.jpg)
The Dep Savoy produced 1943 to 1946 according to the book. The Dep Savoy in the book has a half bail but this is a full bail model. Unfortunately, it also has a bent shaft suggesting it might have been dropped at some time. The spool tensioner also looks to have been replaced.
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/c6pVMQZ.jpg)
The SAP Mer 703 (sea reel). This reel has a skirted spool and PUM type pick up.
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/K65d638.jpg)
What do they know of fishing who know only one fish and one way to fish for him?
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Coral Maestro wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:35 amThe 704 is the economy model according to the book. It comes with a roller index pick-up and monobloc crank (Google translate!).Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:27 amLucky youCoral Maestro wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:18 pmYes, I'm very lucky to have found a few French gems. The Doperr is a great user reel and coped with a 30lb+ carp. The Crack is a bit on the heavy side for my liking, the Baby Vamp has some issues so hasn't been used and I haven't tried the SAP yet.Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm Are those your reels acting as paper weights? A Doplerr, SAP / DEP and a Baby Vamp are on my wish list![]()
I have paid for a SAP 704 but it hasn't arrived and they seller is not answering messages. I don't think it is a scam. More like the seller is on holiday. I am also in a friendly dispute with the author of your book. I ordered and paid for the companion book to yours. He sent me a much more expensive book on the early days of Mitchell reels. He is also on holiday and cannot resolve the matter for another fortnight. That is French life for you![]()
I've not seen a SAP 704, what do you plan to use it for?![]()
The SAP 704 hasn't materialised. I got a refund with no explanation yesterday. As such I don't yet know what size it is, but I had hoped to use it for chub, roach, carp and barbel on a Chapmans 500. I understand that there are four model numbers, ending in 1 to 4 in full and half bail examples. But I don't know what the differences are. I am hoping that the book I ordered might shed some light on it.![]()
These are my SAP / Dep Savoy reels:
The SAP 702
The SAP 701
The Dep Savoy produced 1943 to 1946 according to the book. The Dep Savoy in the book has a half bail but this is a full bail model. Unfortunately, it also has a bent shaft suggesting it might have been dropped at some time. The spool tensioner also looks to have been replaced.
The SAP Mer 703 (sea reel). This reel has a skirted spool and PUM type pick up.
All 3 models are a similar size.
What do they know of fishing who know only one fish and one way to fish for him?
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Now I know why I can't find any decent French reels. You've got them all! ![Hahaha :Hahaha:](./images/smilies/icon_hahaha.gif)
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Sorry! It's an obsession that I don't seem to be able to shake!
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I have a couple of old '50s/60s' centrepin' reels used for 'Peche a la toc' ---- 2 sizes.