John Holt Schooling

St.John · Post by **St.John** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:18 pm

That is bloody fascinating. Never heard of this before. Nice one.

The Sweetcorn Kid · Post by **The Sweetcorn Kid** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:49 pm

Super stuff, thanks for taking the time to post.

Post by **Mark** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:38 pm

Very nice Rod, lovely pictures.

Martin Trentham · Post by **Martin Trentham** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:31 am

I am new to this forum and wondering if anyone, perhaps Rod Turner, can shed any light. I have a John Holt Schooling greenheart rod, 12' long, with porcelain rings, and bearing the number 2 on the brass Allcocks end cap. The No.2 referred to in the list above is shown as 9' long.

Dokterhoo · Post by **Dokterhoo** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:28 pm

Hi,
Welcome. Hope this helps - some pics from Allcocks 1915 catalogue showing all the Schooling rods and reels. The original images have been reduced by Tinypic but pm me with an email address and I'll send the high resolution ones.
Cheers,
Dok

Harry H · Post by **Harry H** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:27 pm

Here's a couple of patents on for a lead and the other for rod fittings.

Martin Trentham · Post by **Martin Trentham** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:15 pm

Yes, you're right. Thanks very much, very interesting. I don't have a matching spinning reel - the only ones of that era are a 'J.Enwright & Co, Castleconnell', and a 'Forrest's Patent adjustable drag reel' by Forrest & Co. Kelso, both of which are fly reels. These must have belonged to my step-grandfather. I must have a look among the baits etc. to see if there are any Schooling ones.

PS my step-grandfather died in 1924, which is why the rod does not appear to have had much use.

Harry H · Post by **Harry H** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:35 pm

Martin Trentham wrote:Yes, you're right. Thanks very much, very interesting. I don't have a matching spinning reel - the only ones of that era are a 'J.Enwright & Co, Castleconnell', and a 'Forrest's Patent adjustable drag reel' by Forrest & Co. Kelso, both of which are fly reels. These must have belonged to my step-grandfather. I must have a look among the baits etc. to see if there are any Schooling ones.

PS my step-grandfather died in 1924, which is why the rod does not appear to have had much use.

You got some nice bits and bobs there,is the Kelso reel made by Dingley?

Nobby · Post by **Nobby** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:55 pm

Here are the original patent documents for Schoolings reel fitting:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicat ... cale=en_GB

I had thought him to be an Allcocks employee but I see his address is given as Twickenham, Middlesex!

The patent for his lead gives the same address:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicat ... cale=en_GB

Nobby · Post by **Nobby** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:23 am

Perhaps Allcocks had a reputation for taking on board and manufacturing the inventions of others, then? We have this chap and Seb Coe's father who lived nearby, both having patents applied for in conjunction with Allcocks.

I had hoped to find something on the Felton Crosswind, but no luck so far.

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