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Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:06 am
by Nobby
Here's an image of the Aerial Match handles.....what do you think fellers?

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Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:35 am
by Crucian
That's interesting Nobby,
The handles do appear to be the same as fitted to the later Aerial, the only difference being the screw instead of rivets.Image

Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:31 am
by Keston
Thanks for that Nobby . The 1939 handles look remarkably close to the early post war Rapidex ones .

Crucian , I have measured the C815 handles and to me they are the same as the ones on the early post war Rapidex .
John

Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:09 pm
by Lea Dweller
Nobby wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:06 am I can't be sure...as I don't have one here...but I think the 'round' handles were also used on the PRE war Aerial Match made in only 1939. There may just have been some of these handles hanging around after the war and they were used up first. Immediately post war reels all seem to have them, including Vikings, Beaduexes, and Condexes. These are all riveted on, whereas the Aerial Match handles were held in place with a screw, though I have found one image which has them riveted on too...though I think this is a repair as the rivets just look different from any others used by JW Young.

That's actually a fair few reels so maybe they were made post war after all, but it would seem to suggest they were on the very earliest reels post war.......?
Although Garry Mills was busy today, I managed to ask his opinion on my early Alcock Flickem perfection with the round handles. His opinion was that it was that it was1952/3 ish. What was interesting was that as mine does not have an 'embossed' badge it was not as early as the one's that do? What do you think chaps?

Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:52 pm
by Keston
Lea Dweller wrote: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:09 pm
Nobby wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:06 am I can't be sure...as I don't have one here...but I think the 'round' handles were also used on the PRE war Aerial Match made in only 1939. There may just have been some of these handles hanging around after the war and they were used up first. Immediately post war reels all seem to have them, including Vikings, Beaduexes, and Condexes. These are all riveted on, whereas the Aerial Match handles were held in place with a screw, though I have found one image which has them riveted on too...though I think this is a repair as the rivets just look different from any others used by JW Young.

That's actually a fair few reels so maybe they were made post war after all, but it would seem to suggest they were on the very earliest reels post war.......?
Although Garry Mills was busy today, I managed to ask his opinion on my early Alcock Flickem perfection with the round handles. His opinion was that it was that it was1952/3 ish. What was interesting was that as mine does not have an 'embossed' badge it was not as early as the one's that do? What do you think chaps?
Hi Ted
Well I'm not going to Disagree with Garry , mainly because people would laugh at me :Chuckle:
The badges on my allcocks do not look embossed either . Though I have to say neither do half of the early Rapidex reels . Sometimes it's only possible to tell using a jewellers loupe .
The badges are quite interesting and I've not included them in this for good reasons.
Taking into account Garry' s date for your reel it's would seem LTD may have been added to the badges many years after 1947 .

Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:45 pm
by Bass
My two early reels. Centrepin capstans both differ one being slightly larger and flatter than the other. One reel has reinforcement ribs around the centre hub. Any info greatly received and sorry for showing up somewhat late.

Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:26 pm
by Keston
Thought I would add to this thread .
7 early Rapidex / Flick em centrepins with round handles . I've not yet come across a Milwards version with round handles .

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Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 11:47 am
by Keston
Thought I would add this reel , not one of the earliest but I found it interesting .

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Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am
by Nobby
Sculpted body but a plastic check lever.

So one of the very first changes was to change the check lever from metal to plastic? I wonder if the handles or the lever changed first? And what about the printed badge?

I wonder where Harlesden Angling Club went fishing? Not locally surely? And did they fish with Camafloats which were made in Harlesden originally?

Re: Early post ww2 Rapidex , Floatcraft & Flick- em study

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 11:15 am
by Keston
Nobby wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am Sculpted body but a plastic check lever.

So one of the very first changes was to change the check lever from metal to plastic? I wonder if the handles or the lever changed first? And what about the printed badge?

I wonder where Harlesden Angling Club went fishing? Not locally surely? And did they fish with Camafloats which were made in Harlesden originally?
Its an interesting reel isnt it Nobby . If we dare to assume the reel was new in 1949 for the xmas outing and hadnt been sitting in a shop somewhere for ages then we do have a printed badge in 1949 without the "LTD " , when we know they went LTD in 1947 .

I didnt find much inf about Harlesden AC