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I got two reels for Christmas one Allcocks which I bought for many hundreds of pounds. The other my wife bought for £8 !!!! Knowing my love for all things Marco and the family connection. I don’t know much about the reel making this may just be badged and bought in but it’s very well made and good quality if anyone has any info I would be very interested.
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Hello Humber67,I'm curious to know,being a nosey git,what your connection to Marco is...Russ

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Humber67 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:22 pmI don’t know much about the reel making this may just be badged and bought in but it’s very well made and good quality if anyone has any info I would be very interested.
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I am told that the extra screw and guide channel in the check pawl carriage assembly is a characteristic of Smith and Wall-made reels. I can't verify its accuracy.
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I would have never have guessed that there would be all that fine metalwork inside a reel of that type.
It’s very nice.

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Homer Simpson wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:13 pm I would have never have guessed that there would be all that fine metalwork inside a reel of that type.
It’s very nice.
The brass lining (outside the check caliper) was originally only found on Reuben Heaton's 'Sun' reels, which were labelled with the patent number 13388/85 (i.e. 1885). It helps to prevent the wooden backplate from warping much better than the brass starback alone.
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Hi Martin, a couple of pages from the 1933 Marco catalogue showing some of the various walnut reels they sold. There are others but they are larger sea reels.
Reading through the various descriptions, I think my guess would be No 425 The Moss.
If you right click on the picture it can be opened in another page with the option to enlarge it.

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Russell Howard Brown wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:07 pm Hello Humber67,I'm curious to know,being a nosey git,what your connection to Marco is...Russ
Hi Russell
Both my Great Uncle and Aunt worked for them in Bromley. In retirement my Uncle bought a Rod makers lathe from Taylor’s of Birmingham and set himself up repairing rods and ferrules. Sadly I never got him to make me a rod but I have the lathe and a big bundle of cane rod sections.
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Wallys-Cast wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:30 pm Hi Martin, a couple of pages from the 1933 Marco catalogue showing some of the various walnut reels they sold. There are others but they are larger sea reels.
Reading through the various descriptions, I think my guess would be No 425 The Moss.
If you right click on the picture it can be opened in another page with the option to enlarge it.

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Thanks Wal
Loving the Catalogue. Now I need to find one of those!!!!
I think your right No 425 with optional cane handles
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Rod Fisher wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:38 pm Image
Homer Simpson wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:13 pm I would have never have guessed that there would be all that fine metalwork inside a reel of that type.
It’s very nice.
The brass lining (outside the check caliper) was originally only found on Reuben Heaton's 'Sun' reels, which were labelled with the patent number 13388/85 (i.e. 1885). It helps to prevent the wooden backplate from warping much better than the brass starback alone.

That spun brass insert would not only give additional strength,but together with the brass line drum inner side plate, it would also allow the maker to have a much narrower clearance gap between backplate and line drum. They certainly look to be well-made reels of that type.

I see that the little golden transfer on the back is the same trademark as on “Sylcast” Perlon line, made in post-war Germany.
Can anyone tell me if there is any connection here ? Or were the line makers just using an expired registered mark?

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Watermole+ wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:39 pm I see that the little golden transfer on the back is the same trademark as on “Sylcast” Perlon line, made in post-war Germany.
Can anyone tell me if there is any connection here ? Or were the line makers just using an expired registered mark?

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According to Kevin Clifford’s ‘A History Of Carp Fishing’ Sylcast was originally distributed by Marco.
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