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Winter Crucians?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:51 am
by The Sweetcorn Kid
Is there such a thing?

Just wondered if it was worth targetting them through the colder months or whether they shut up shop as do the tench.

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:20 am
by MGs
I had a bit of success with them a couple of years ago. I had several over the space of a few months. However, fishing the same water last year, I didn't catch one, even in the summer. So it may be a bit hit and miss. Worth noting that it was very cold when I did catch them.

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:16 pm
by GazTheAngler
I reckon the small Epping Forest ones would still feed.,esp in the ponds were there's not much else.

You might want to contact Marsh Farm SK to see if their Cru's feed ok during the winter.

I'm probably going to leave the Cru's until June.

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:31 pm
by DaceAce
Crucians are quite temperature sensitive in day time. One of the clues you may not be catching true winter crucians but instead F1 carp x crucians or brown goldfish is if you are catching in water temperatures below 50F or 10C. Both F1s and goldfish will feed down to at least 45F or about 7C. I have caught crucians through the winter in daylight but on very mild days. Peter Wheat caught crucians in much colder conditions a couple of years ago but only in the middle of teh night; true crucians as well! Just shows how little we know sometimes!

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:21 pm
by The Sweetcorn Kid
Gaz

Marsh was on my mind, hence the post. Quite fancy a stab at them next weekend so will call and see what's happening.

DaceAce

Peter Rolfe said the same thing, ref catching them at night throught he winter, so I reckon there must be some truth in it.

As I won't be coarse angling through the close season this time around I quite fancy trying for them before this season shuts.

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:26 pm
by Mushy
Interesting question SK, looking back over my journals the last Crucian I caught was on 17th November. I've fished twice since and not a touch except some lovely little roach last Sunday. Since November all bites have come after dark, I'll keep plugging away and let you know if I have any success.

It may be that once the cold water temperatures stabilise they might start feeding again :Beg:

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:37 pm
by The Sweetcorn Kid
Let's hope so sir.. :cheers:

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:14 pm
by Mushy
Well SK they're feeding again on my little pond, had a lovely 2iber at 5.00 pm last night, didn't take a pic unfortunately, too excited to think properly :Confused:

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:38 pm
by MaggotDrowner
Mushy wrote:Well SK they're feeding again on my little pond, had a lovely 2iber at 5.00 pm last night, didn't take a pic unfortunately, too excited to think properly :Confused:
I always do that with weighing fish. Far too excited to think about that. I always admire the fish, takes its photograph and then, just as I've slipped it back my mate shouts: "didn't you want to weigh it?!". If I'm fishing alone I never think about it until someone asks how big it was or I'm writing a journal.

I have no idea as to the size of my PB perch, grayling, roach or pike because I always forget to weigh them! :Brickwall:


There is a pool I know that has them to only about a pound, with hundreds of tiny ones. I might have a go for them on a warmer day if I don't get too detracted by the pike and my new passion - trotting for grayling.

Re: Winter Crucians?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:23 pm
by DaceAce
Mushy wrote:Well SK they're feeding again on my little pond, had a lovely 2iber at 5.00 pm last night, didn't take a pic unfortunately, too excited to think properly :Confused:

The temperature might have been key yesterday. Down here in Dorset we had up to 13C in sheltered spots this weekend! If the water was over 10C again that would be enough.