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Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:41 pm
by Gary Bills
The Sweetcorn Kid wrote:There is every possibility, FB. I for one like to think of it that way sir... :Wink:
Me too, - why not? :Thumb:

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:23 pm
by The Sweetcorn Kid
......'ere be Quicksand!!! :Scared:

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:07 pm
by Julian
The Sweetcorn Kid wrote:When the pool was drained it was apparent that there was no deep hole in Pitchfords. Before, and even during the folming of APFA is was "Reputed to be bottomless". There are carp holes though, shallow holes that turn up in various places, probably caused by carp feeding vigourously on blodworm beds or my special wonder bait. I think the centre channel off the dam between the boathouse and cranstouns is about the deepest part, and we're probably talking around 10 feet.

But it has never actually been 'drained' has it?
The level has been lowered considerably - but the biggest carp seem to avoid being seen or netted on those occasions.
If it had been completely drained then there would be no mystery - such as the long common or the big linear.

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:45 pm
by Julian
JAA wrote:...but like all such lakes it is silting up, so unless it's drained and de-silted at some point, it will simply cease to be. It can pay to part drain, exposing 50-70% of the bed in the shallow parts and leaving it to dry out for several months - this can compact the silt and help it to rot down, but it's a stop-gap in the inevitable progression to marsh.
The Redmire shallows were completely de-silted a few years ago - a large project filling a huge pit with the silt.

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:23 pm
by Julian
JAA wrote:
Julian wrote:
JAA wrote:...but like all such lakes it is silting up, so unless it's drained and de-silted at some point, it will simply cease to be. It can pay to part drain, exposing 50-70% of the bed in the shallow parts and leaving it to dry out for several months - this can compact the silt and help it to rot down, but it's a stop-gap in the inevitable progression to marsh.
The Redmire shallows were completely de-silted a few years ago - a large project filling a huge pit with the silt.
Good to know, I wonder if anyone will ever bite the bullets and do the whole job? Might kill the mystery though.

Unlikely until it became desperate - as you say it would ruin the mstery - which is what Redmire has always had.

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:11 pm
by The Sweetcorn Kid
Let me assure you that the silt in the Redmire shallows is still very very deep, as I found out last summer. I was almost lost FOREVER!!! :shocked:

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:26 pm
by St.John
The Sweetcorn Kid wrote:Let me assure you that the silt in the Redmire shallows is still very very deep, as I found out last summer. I was almost lost FOREVER!!! :shocked:
With the rain last year we've had a nightmare with the silt, and the new potato crops around the pool are not helping.

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:35 pm
by Chevin
The Sweetcorn Kid wrote:Let me assure you that the silt in the Redmire shallows is still very very deep, as I found out last summer. I was almost lost FOREVER!!! :shocked:
You just wanted to do a CY :Hahaha:

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:53 pm
by Vole
If the lake was formed by damming a stream, and the references to a dam would suggest this was the case, then under what circumstances would the original deepest part be anywhere other than the point where the old stream bed meets the dam*? This may well back-fill with silt, creeping up-catchment from the dam, but the deepest point should remain somewhere along the stream - should it not?

Baffled of Barnet.

* A very ambitious Gypsy Well? :Chuckle:

Re: Gerald Berth-Jones handmade Floats

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:06 pm
by Snape
The Sweetcorn Kid wrote:Let me assure you that the silt in the Redmire shallows is still very very deep, as I found out last summer. I was almost lost FOREVER!!! :shocked:
Indeed, as is the whole marsh area except to my surprised the centre of the bed of the inlet stream which is really quite firm but stray off it for a few steps and you are up to your knees!