Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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Re: Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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The estimates can usually be way of final sale price. It's common practise for auction houses to quote low estimates as it gets the punters through the door. High estimates only puts people off going. Given the previous ebay listing, which you could look at as a bit of free publicity, and the cast-iron provenenace I'd be surprised if the rod didn't make over two grand.

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Re: Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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Thank you for the info Nobby.

I may start the bidding off, as long as it's below £150.00 though,
because that's my max!!!!!
As Beresford say's it's just a fishing rod.

But then again I know nothing.

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Re: Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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I think the reserve on THAT rod is £1800. :o


I've just returned from an auction in Sussex where I didn't even bid.

There was a picture of a Wizard on-line that looked OK...estimated at £20 to 30.

In fact it had rusty rings and needed a complete re-fit. And the tip section is soft....too soft.

Even at midnight the estimate stayed the same( they do print outs for the punters)....it's still the same on the auction houses website even now. But after a while I had a 'chat' and discovered that on their in-house computer they have raised the estimate to £80 to 120 due to the number of absentee bids they have recieved.



Someone has bought a turkey by bidding on-line, sadly I hope it wasn't any of you lot?

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Re: Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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Not me, I'm right out of cash at the moment, shame as there's a rod in the Mullocks auction that I would like to have bid on. Still I certainly don't need it as I've two already.
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Re: Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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Well actually it went under the hammer for just £60! OK, it needs a lot of work and maybe a new tip section, but not too bad after all.

That auction house isn't very good with its estimates, swinging from way under to way over.

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Auction reserves are a waste of time as it depends on how many bidders are interested and if they get the red mist. Best to set your own reserve and stick to it. I do and my last Fred j Taylor cost under £100 but needed a new tip section, £60 from Brian norman collected, a new set of ferrules and I had a new short handle made for it. All guides updated to hardlon lined. The total cost including work was about £300 and is as good as my other original even if it has the pedigree of being owned y Peter stone and restored by Edward Barder, shiny varnish aside it's still nice but another £1200 more than I paid just because Mr Yates has owned it, too rich for me :wink:

Hunter a bit lighter and more tippy than the FJT buy the way

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I don't think auction house reserves are a waste of time for the seller if they want to protect themselves against weak bidding.
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I think Greentura might have meant estimate, rather than reserve?

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Re: Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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Nobby wrote:I think Greentura might have meant estimate, rather than reserve?
I did, my mistake.
Just collected one of my hunters today, had a full restoration and the other ones gone in to be done after the other (3rd) Fred J is finished, being upgraded like the other one and with a short handle being made. Got told I should start restoring and rebuilding too as Mike has too much work on. It's a confidence thing though. It's alright doing my own repairs but restoring other peoples rods for money, now that's something else. I think a few days working with Mike may be the answer :wink:

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Re: Fred J Taylor Roach Rod

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FJT based specialist avon collected last night along with a 22' second handle for Peter's rod from the damaged one that came with the middle section of the one that had been rebuilt. my uprated ones have reinforced ferules and composite tube under the cork to cope with casting heavier leads and feeder along with hardlon lined guides all through. my next project is a FJT mid section with a Mk4 avon top section, 22" cork and rubber button with black sliding reel bands and a 15' variant of the 14' chapmans hunter using the FJT tip section, and again hardlon lined chrome butt and tip guides with 10 chrome intermediates. the tip section is 0.005 over size of the mid section but i don't think it'll affect it much and if it does i'll use it for another rod and get the proper tip for it to be 14' :wink:

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