The Traditional Fisherman's Forum

Shropshire Lad wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:39 pm As others have said you won't go far wrong with a Sharpes or Hardy LRH no 1 ( the no 2 is much too powerful I use mine for deadbaiting for pike or fishing for large carp in snaggy or weedy venues the no 1 is more pleasant to use for stalking.

Having lauded the Sharpes rods, and they are great, I have recently acquired an LRH 1 & 2. I have not had the chance to use either yet, so it will be interesting how I would have answered the question in 12 months time.

Martin James wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:23 pm Bob a cut down Sharps salmon rod will make a perfect job, David Crain, can tell you about them, better than I can, has he converted my 13ft and 14ft double handed rods. I no longer used for salmon, they have been used with very good success this past summer Regards Martin

Interesting, I always thought that would work well...it did when I did just that with Hexagraph salmon rods.

One of the Marco Capella variants perhaps?
Apart from the whispy 7 foot version they are sturdy rods .

Chapman 500 has worked really well for me. But for really difficult spots I like to use a split cane rod that was converted from an unknown 12’ rod to a 10’ rod, having the butt section of the rod cut down and the rings arranged the same way as the “500”. It’s slightly stiffer than the 500 and I don’t worry about possible damage so much. Although having said that, I now value it just as much. I might have to make another one for even rougher locations.

Really dependant on where one is fishing. Could range from 5-6 through to a 10 -11 foot cane. Action again is down to where one is casting.

Barbelbonce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:59 pm A pal of mine phoned me this evening to ask for a recommendation for an up-to 10ft carp stalking rod:..."..you know, proper poking about in the bushes type rod", he said.
First. he asked if a Chapman 500 would be ok and I replied that it may be a bit lightweight and he might do better with a 550 Carp from Chapmans, or A N Other 10' carp rod.
I also said that a Sharpes salmon spinning rod (9'3" or 9'6"?) would probably fit the bill - but, naturally, expensive.
Please have any of you here have any ideas for him? He's a pretty committed traditionalist and I'd like to be able to help him.
Many thanks,
Mike

If its a 10' he wants to use then why not go for a Mark IV carp rod (B James or other make). Or are they thought to be to precious for a bit of poking through bushes?

Santiago wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:24 pm

Barbelbonce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:59 pm A pal of mine phoned me this evening to ask for a recommendation for an up-to 10ft carp stalking rod:..."..you know, proper poking about in the bushes type rod", he said.
First. he asked if a Chapman 500 would be ok and I replied that it may be a bit lightweight and he might do better with a 550 Carp from Chapmans, or A N Other 10' carp rod.
I also said that a Sharpes salmon spinning rod (9'3" or 9'6"?) would probably fit the bill - but, naturally, expensive.
Please have any of you here have any ideas for him? He's a pretty committed traditionalist and I'd like to be able to help him.
Many thanks,
Mike

If its a 10' he wants to use then why not go for a Mark IV carp rod (B James or other make). Or are they thought to be to precious for a bit of poking through bushes?

A MkIV will do for stalking, but a snaggy swim where a hit and hold approach needs summat shorter and a wee bit beefier and it'll be a tad undergunned

I am a big fan of short rods and consider 10’ to be a long rod. I often use rods between 4’ 6” and 8’.
For choice it depends on the size of the fish being targeted.
At the top end is the Barder Carpcrawler which is 8’ 3” and will handle carp to well over 20lbs.
My preference for carp to high doubles and barbel to about 13 lb in close, tight situations is the 6’ 10” Hardy Wanless 9/10lb. I have caught 100s of fish to high double figures on mine often in real hook and hold situations and it is brilliant.
At the longer end there is an 8’ version of the Wanless or the 9’ 3” Sharpes spinning rod or LRH2.
For big carp in hold and hold situations I have used the Hardy Javelin pike rod which is 8’. It’ll cope with anything but is a bit of a broom stick.
It might be worth looking at new like the Ryan Burns Creeper series. They are 6’ rods. I have 2 of his very short rods and they are excellent for really tight fishing.

Hardy Wanless 9/10lb carp fishing in a couple of tight swims.

Some rods are are too expensive for my pocket to poke through trees, bushes and worst of all - tangled brambles - which, where I fish, hang over the water with undercut banks! So the longer rod can pull them out from, in some cases, under your feet!

It has always been said that shorter rods can give more pressure to a fish than longer rods - that's why sea boat rods can be 6ft long. And Snape uses his and 'magic' on double figure carp and barbel!

No one rod - I think - is capable to be used everywhere!