The Traditional Fisherman's Forum

Wallyboy Rob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:06 am Could get a bit Orwellian, all Mkvi's are equal but some Mkvi's are more equal than others

That's life!

Bob Southwell/Arthur Hancock from 'The Captain'
Ted Oliver
Hardy's
Sowerbutts
Henry J Nicholls
Ogden Smith

All of the above mentioned as makers in Kevin Cliffords great book 'A history of carp fishing revisited'.

Excellent! Glad you're able to find your copy CrayCane...mine seems to have disappeared!
+ Orwellian is good, as long as the Fun Police don't intervene!

Hardy Richard Walker Carp.
Hardy The Carp.

Many different rods are claimed to MkIV on that auction site. Again many are not and range from 3 section float rods - sea rods!

Surely MKIV is a trade mark?

MkIV may indeed have been a trade mark, and people may list whatever on the Bay of Plenty and label it as such, but the idea is MkIV and such types (be it to the original taper and hinge, or not)...10' ish, designed to be sold as a carp rod, built cane, 2 piece (forgot to mention that!)...it's a bit of interesting fun, rather than a treatise on the definition of a true MkIV.

So a Chapman Carp is included but a Chapman 550 3 section isn't?

James Aspindale The Goldendale.

Ah! The Goldendale - either 2 or 3 sections - - and either 'Avon' or 'Carp' dependent upon each ones t/c! But not marked as either!

Amongst my collection of MKIV’s is a J W Aitken Superflex 10 foot Carp Rod

Aitken’s Superflex rods where made throughout the years with the earliest being split cane and the later versions fibreglass.

My version is the split cane version of the MKIV and it is one of my favourites.These were often mentioned as being the poor mans MKIV but that does not do them justice. It is of similar taper dimension to the B James MKIV but a lot more responsive and when you check with a digital calipers ot micrometer you can see it is marginally more pokey, plus “dark steely cane and spiral nodes” to die for