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If your hiding it away from the Wife very easily :Chuckle: W B :Hat:

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Have you had a look at the book 'Mr Crabtree's guide to good fishing tackle', A daily Mirror publication, Hamburger. In the rear is a section dedicated to pier and shore fishing showing rods and reels used around the mid/late sixties in the UK etc. This book is often available on Ebay and is a snapshot of all forms of tackle from the period. :Hat: Reedling.

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Having taken a look through the tackle chapters of a few of my vintage sea fishing books, and this is the result -

In my opinion a key reference book on the subject is this one by the late, great, Clive Gammon, simply titled Sea Fishing (Pelham Books, 1969).

Clive Gammon's recommendations are; Davenport and Fordham's (Surflite and Farstrike series), with particular mention of his (CG's) signature Bass rod. Hardy's Longbow and Tourney, and the Abu Atlantic series. Mentioned also is the Sea Spray designed by Brian Harris and marketed by B. James & Son.

The next, Competiton Sea Angling by Bruce McMillen (Hamlyn, 1970).

In addition to Clive Gammon's recommendations, McMillen adds the Modern Arms Glas Achilles, the Sportex 3043b and the Milbro Surfmaster.

I've only mentioned beachcasters as that's the OPs interest, I'll happily provide more detail if required (length, casting weights, recommended reels, other specialist rods etc).

Hope this is of interest, rather a collectors list - especially the D & F, Abu, Hardy and B. James!

John.

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Not very helpful, I'm afraid, but I remember reading about "Burma Poles" being used for beachcasters... but there's next to nothing about them on the web.

It might be worth seeing what you can find by an author called Hugh Stoker, the generation before Clive Gammon, for decades (it seemed) he wrote a column called "Longshoreman's Notebook" in angling times; if he wrote a book, it may reach back far enough.

It'll probably make you cry, Hamburger, but this bit of sixties, surfcasting eye-candy just appeared: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8895
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I have just come across this topic.Posts move through quickly on the TFF these days :) .Ive been using glass beachcasters for my sea fishing this summer.Ive always fancied trying a split cane Hardy Pira Yuru Bait (surf) Casting rod but havent come across one yet.In any case i draw the line at sea fishing when using cane salwater does not take prisoners!.

My two rods have been a Hardy Longbow and a Hardy Tourney (12ft 3in).The Longbow is a lovely rod and will be good for winter fishing with 6-8oz leads i reckon.It is heavy though.The Tourney seems much lighter and i would guess is pretty much as good as it gets in glass of the period.It casts 6oz with ease.Ive just recieved a H Victor which seems a lighter version of the Tourney?.

Ive aquired a couple of ABU 6000c reels.The black ones and a red 6000 to try with the rods.I have been using fixed spool reels so far.My first few trips with the multipliers should be fun :Sarcasm: .

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Noticed these on http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/hand- ... 1029921424
Someone thinks they are valuable :shocked:
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Woolly Bear wrote:Daft question I know but 65 yds. with a sea Jecta mk 111 centre pin , that's a record Sir . Woolly Bear . :Hat:
This is me casting from a rock (stumble):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjexeOUN ... e=youtu.be

And this is the Sea Jecta III:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZiTW9_t ... utu.be[url]

It runs very very freely and - as you can see in the second video: I use it like I would use a multiplying reel and break it with the thumb. And, like with a multiplier, it does create some birdsnest every now and then. Hihi.
Thing is, you have to cast scarborough style. Means while swinging the rod foreward and up, you already release the spool. Because of its weight, the reel is a slow starter, but when it runs... ...man - it runs!
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Vole wrote:
It'll probably make you cry, Hamburger, but this bit of sixties, surfcasting eye-candy just appeared: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8895

You're right. What a shame. :Cry:
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Reedling wrote:Have you had a look at the book 'Mr Crabtree's guide to good fishing tackle', A daily Mirror publication, Hamburger. In the rear is a section dedicated to pier and shore fishing showing rods and reels used around the mid/late sixties in the UK etc. This book is often available on Ebay and is a snapshot of all forms of tackle from the period. :Hat: Reedling.
Ordered it at amazon for 3.45 !!!
Thanks for the tip. I'm looking foreward finding out more about this topic.
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This was really helpful. Thanks to ye all.
I had a wonderful 12 days fishing in Paco de Arcos (Lisbon). I took the Noris 15ft rod and the Sea Jecta and a 8ft ABU split cane spinning rod with an Ambassadeur 6000. I hardly used the spinning tackle. Mostly fished with a paternoster using cockles as bait. Tipp from a local fisherman: Buy fresh prawns, peel them and put them in salt overnight. This way they don't get weak and fall off the hook. Most effective method was float tackle, by the way. It caught only tiddlers, but was the most fun. And that's what it's all about, as far as I'm concerned. In the evenings I read Chris Yates "Out Of The Blue". His sea fishing book. He uses his carp rod, of course, for spinning with a popper. I love this guy. Bought a "startled sprat" right away. But was too tired to go fishing after dark. Maybe next time I visit my parents, who live in Ostfriesland (on the North Sea coast, next to the Netherlands) I will use the plug chasing sea bass.
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