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Tweed wrote:
Thames Mudlarker wrote:
RBTraditional wrote:Yes its a grand per angler Stu....the estate don't want coarse anglers.... they want it to be a game syndicate.....better class of angler apparently :snooty:
Blimey £1000 syndicate, I personally think they've obviously got more money than sence game or no game, yea quite agree :snooty:
Makes you laugh realy don't it when you think that most fishing companies rely on the coarse n carp scene :eyebrow:

unless you work in farlows :Hahaha:

Stuart
money is relative and people will pay what they can afford, buying peace in some cases, though not always. My game fishing club was around £2,500 so worthy of a cor blimey especially considering the £2500 circa joining fee.

I don't know what "most companies" are really? The coarse orientated seem to be small bands of brothers getting stuff made in the far east then selling relatively cheaply. Game has possibly fewer vendors but uses the far east too, of course. Pricier mostly, but smaller market probably.

Mmmm.....just wandering in reality how many people would seriously pay that kinda money for 1 seasons fishing and the same amount for a joining fee :fingertap:

A fishing club for the rich and the supposedly better classed angler I presume :snooty:
Must have more money than sence,

It's a bit like Eamon and Ruth's tv program " how the other half live "

In the right conditions I do a fair bit of fly fishing for bass, now this is what I call game fishing as this is not no easy feat, but the difference is that this don't cost me a single penny other than me tackle :Cool:
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"most companies" - I don't think refers to manufacturers! More likely "commercial fishing water" companies. However Stuart above will make that clearer I hope.

I worked for a "commercial" angling company providing fishing - not tackle! - for 17 years in a managerial position. It had at one time 45,000+ members on its books - half that number being "active anglers" each year. Permit costs ranged from £30 to £2500 - dependent upon what swam in the pit! Rather like a larger version of the Somerley Estate.

Small companies getting stuff from China - most angling companies do, small or large! Even Hardy has it's carbon rods made in China!!

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Olly wrote:"most companies" - I don't think refers to manufacturers! More likely "commercial fishing water" companies. However Stuart above will make that clearer I hope.

I worked for a "commercial" angling company providing fishing - not tackle! - for 17 years in a managerial position. It had at one time 45,000+ members on its books - half that number being "active anglers" each year. Permit costs ranged from £30 to £2500 - dependent upon what swam in the pit! Rather like a larger version of the Somerley Estate.

Small companies getting stuff from China - most angling companies do, small or large! Even Hardy has it's carbon rods made in China!!
Hi Olly,

Yes mate I was more so referring to manafacturing companies,

What I meant earlier was basically in the uk I think it's fair to say that coarse fishing is far more popular on a national basis compared to game fishing especially salmon fisheries,

With this I'd be inclined to think that the majority of fishing manufacturers around the uk and abroad for that matter would be concentrating on general coarse, carp and sea tackle more than anything,

Another example, of all the tackle shops that I've been into over the years there's probably only a handful of shops that do fly gear and even then it's very limited, reason being that there hardly making the sales because there's hardly any game fisheries about compared to coarse fisheries :Hat: unless yer in Scotland :Chuckle:

We can clearly see this how the carp scene over the last 30 years or so has esculated in popularity aswell as all of the specialist carp companies and not including the bait which to be perfectly honest Olly doesn't really interested me in the slightest no more,
Reason being that I think a lot of carp tackle is rediculasy over the top and the fisheries being to commercialised for my liking :Cry:
Hence why I now predominantly only really fish the rivers :Hat:

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Thames Mudlarker wrote:
Tweed wrote:
Thames Mudlarker wrote:
RBTraditional wrote:Yes its a grand per angler Stu....the estate don't want coarse anglers.... they want it to be a game syndicate.....better class of angler apparently :snooty:
Blimey £1000 syndicate, I personally think they've obviously got more money than sence game or no game, yea quite agree :snooty:
Makes you laugh realy don't it when you think that most fishing companies rely on the coarse n carp scene :eyebrow:

unless you work in farlows :Hahaha:

Stuart
money is relative and people will pay what they can afford, buying peace in some cases, though not always. My game fishing club was around £2,500 so worthy of a cor blimey especially considering the £2500 circa joining fee.

I don't know what "most companies" are really? The coarse orientated seem to be small bands of brothers getting stuff made in the far east then selling relatively cheaply. Game has possibly fewer vendors but uses the far east too, of course. Pricier mostly, but smaller market probably.

Mmmm.....just wandering in reality how many people would seriously pay that kinda money for 1 seasons fishing and the same amount for a joining fee :fingertap:
Enough for a ten year waiting list.

Stuart Whiting

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Tweed wrote:
Thames Mudlarker wrote:
Tweed wrote:
Thames Mudlarker wrote:
RBTraditional wrote:Yes its a grand per angler Stu....the estate don't want coarse anglers.... they want it to be a game syndicate.....better class of angler apparently :snooty:
Blimey £1000 syndicate, I personally think they've obviously got more money than sence game or no game, yea quite agree :snooty:
Makes you laugh realy don't it when you think that most fishing companies rely on the coarse n carp scene :eyebrow:

unless you work in farlows :Hahaha:

Stuart
money is relative and people will pay what they can afford, buying peace in some cases, though not always. My game fishing club was around £2,500 so worthy of a cor blimey especially considering the £2500 circa joining fee.

I don't know what "most companies" are really? The coarse orientated seem to be small bands of brothers getting stuff made in the far east then selling relatively cheaply. Game has possibly fewer vendors but uses the far east too, of course. Pricier mostly, but smaller market probably.

Mmmm.....just wandering in reality how many people would seriously pay that kinda money for 1 seasons fishing and the same amount for a joining fee :fingertap:
Enough for a ten year waiting list.
I suppose if yer a real serious Game angler fishing for salmon say up in Scotland then these prices are probably the norm,

I was just basically comparing the prices to average coarse fishing and probably to the average coarse angler these Game prices to many would seem extortionate :Hat:

The Game scene for salmon for example is a completely different class of angling Compared to average coarse fishing and in fairness I would guess is aimed at for the rich / more wealthy whilst the trout scene to many is a more affordable and acceptable price,

I suppose it's all horses for courses :Hat:

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In one club I belong to it is the "prestige" of being a Member - not for me though it is the fishing that is on offer that makes me want to join.

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Olly wrote:In one club I belong to it is the "prestige" of being a Member - not for me though it is the fishing that is on offer that makes me want to join.
I can understand that Olly, if it's OK to ask what type of club would this be and what species of fish do you intend to target :Hat:

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Mixed game and coarse angling - from salmon to minnows! Or as one member wrote from Marlin to Minnows!

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Olly wrote:Mixed game and coarse angling - from salmon to minnows! Or as one member wrote from Marlin to Minnows!
Salmon aswell Olly, would that be on the Test or Itchen :Hat: these are two of my most favourite rivers :Wink:

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Thames Mudlarker wrote:
Tweed wrote:
Thames Mudlarker wrote:
Tweed wrote:
Thames Mudlarker wrote:
RBTraditional wrote:Yes its a grand per angler Stu....the estate don't want coarse anglers.... they want it to be a game syndicate.....better class of angler apparently :snooty:
Blimey £1000 syndicate, I personally think they've obviously got more money than sence game or no game, yea quite agree :snooty:
Makes you laugh realy don't it when you think that most fishing companies rely on the coarse n carp scene :eyebrow:

unless you work in farlows :Hahaha:

Stuart
money is relative and people will pay what they can afford, buying peace in some cases, though not always. My game fishing club was around £2,500 so worthy of a cor blimey especially considering the £2500 circa joining fee.

I don't know what "most companies" are really? The coarse orientated seem to be small bands of brothers getting stuff made in the far east then selling relatively cheaply. Game has possibly fewer vendors but uses the far east too, of course. Pricier mostly, but smaller market probably.

Mmmm.....just wandering in reality how many people would seriously pay that kinda money for 1 seasons fishing and the same amount for a joining fee :fingertap:
Enough for a ten year waiting list.
I suppose if yer a real serious Game angler fishing for salmon say up in Scotland then these prices are probably the norm,

I was just basically comparing the prices to average coarse fishing and probably to the average coarse angler these Game prices to many would seem extortionate :Hat:

The Game scene for salmon for example is a completely different class of angling Compared to average coarse fishing and in fairness I would guess is aimed at for the rich / more wealthy whilst the trout scene to many is a more affordable and acceptable price,

I suppose it's all horses for courses :Hat:
I suppose it's how much are you prepared to pay for good fishing/shielded from the general public/assorted idiots.

Although even paying doesn't seem to guarantee this, had to ring a bailiff five times yesterday to report various incidents.

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