Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Finishing off
After giving the cascamite a couple of days to set the next thing to do was to remove the cable ties. After this I tried to bend the section carefully in my hands and it seemed strong and robust but still had some flex like it should.
There were glue marks and little bits of residue from around / under the cable ties, which I removed with fine wire wool, making sure I didn't press too firmly and checked my progress regularly to ensure I didn't start sanding away at the surface of the cane.
Next was fitting the joint back on. When I tried to put it on dry (without glue, to test the fit) it went on nicely. I always use a two part epoxy resin glue to glue into place rod joints. This is because it is super strong, waterproof, has proved reliable over the years and can easily be unstuck by heating if the joint needs to come off to be realigned or fixed or whatever. The brand I use was the cheapest on eBay, called Ashley. It works so I don't see the point in changing to something more expensive. I mix the glue and hardener 50:50 and mix it. It is then spread thickly over the rod blank where the joint will go. Then slide the joint on and remove the excess that seeps out. Ensure that the bottom on the male joint is flush with the bottom of the bank. If it is a female joint I always give it a tap on the table to ensure it has gone on firmly and all the way. I then give it time to fully harden. The packet says one hour, but I usually give it at least six.
Next I glued on the tip ring and whipped on all the others. Before varnishing I thought I would assemble to rod and pull it into a good bend to see how the delamination repair has really gone. I fixed on a reel, threaded the line through the rings, tied on end to a tree branch and gave it a good tug with the rod. As you can see the area where the repair is (the bottom of the tip section) is bending over quite nicely and the general bend of the rod looks uniform and progressive. I think it has worked, which I am very pleased with as I have never repaired delamination before. I am definitely more confident about doing it in the future.
I then took it into the shed and finished the whipping with the black tips and varnished it. The rod is currently turning in my rod rurner. A turner is of course not necessary and I know one of the rod restorers on here who's work I most admire doesn't use one. I just find that I, personally, get a better finish with one.
The rod will receive at least one more coat to each section, perhaps two more coats. I'll then leave it for 3 - 4 weeks at least to fully cure and harden off after the last coat of varnish before testing it out. I cannot wait to catch something with it. Fingers crossed for a nice tench or carp in about a months time!
After giving the cascamite a couple of days to set the next thing to do was to remove the cable ties. After this I tried to bend the section carefully in my hands and it seemed strong and robust but still had some flex like it should.
There were glue marks and little bits of residue from around / under the cable ties, which I removed with fine wire wool, making sure I didn't press too firmly and checked my progress regularly to ensure I didn't start sanding away at the surface of the cane.
Next was fitting the joint back on. When I tried to put it on dry (without glue, to test the fit) it went on nicely. I always use a two part epoxy resin glue to glue into place rod joints. This is because it is super strong, waterproof, has proved reliable over the years and can easily be unstuck by heating if the joint needs to come off to be realigned or fixed or whatever. The brand I use was the cheapest on eBay, called Ashley. It works so I don't see the point in changing to something more expensive. I mix the glue and hardener 50:50 and mix it. It is then spread thickly over the rod blank where the joint will go. Then slide the joint on and remove the excess that seeps out. Ensure that the bottom on the male joint is flush with the bottom of the bank. If it is a female joint I always give it a tap on the table to ensure it has gone on firmly and all the way. I then give it time to fully harden. The packet says one hour, but I usually give it at least six.
Next I glued on the tip ring and whipped on all the others. Before varnishing I thought I would assemble to rod and pull it into a good bend to see how the delamination repair has really gone. I fixed on a reel, threaded the line through the rings, tied on end to a tree branch and gave it a good tug with the rod. As you can see the area where the repair is (the bottom of the tip section) is bending over quite nicely and the general bend of the rod looks uniform and progressive. I think it has worked, which I am very pleased with as I have never repaired delamination before. I am definitely more confident about doing it in the future.
I then took it into the shed and finished the whipping with the black tips and varnished it. The rod is currently turning in my rod rurner. A turner is of course not necessary and I know one of the rod restorers on here who's work I most admire doesn't use one. I just find that I, personally, get a better finish with one.
The rod will receive at least one more coat to each section, perhaps two more coats. I'll then leave it for 3 - 4 weeks at least to fully cure and harden off after the last coat of varnish before testing it out. I cannot wait to catch something with it. Fingers crossed for a nice tench or carp in about a months time!
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Well done Jack,
After reading the advice on this forum I repaired the dreaded Delamination on the last 8'' of the tip of my Marco 'Test' and the casamite has worked fine, you look at it and think how will it all hold together but it does, it's only been tested with Chub up to 3lb so far but no reason to think it's not going to stay together, yours will be fine.
Tight lines Dave
After reading the advice on this forum I repaired the dreaded Delamination on the last 8'' of the tip of my Marco 'Test' and the casamite has worked fine, you look at it and think how will it all hold together but it does, it's only been tested with Chub up to 3lb so far but no reason to think it's not going to stay together, yours will be fine.
Tight lines Dave
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
The Joy Of Seeing The Rod In Use Again
I took the Ledgerdale out earlier in the week to a small pond I know for its first outing with me as its owner. Although it is obviously designed for ledgering I float fished with it. I've never been one to stick to the rules. It was ideal for float fishing in the margin because being so short and hollow built makes it extremely light in the hand.
A nice big piece of spam on a size ten and a handful of corn scattered around the porcupine quill resulted in three carp and a few bream. Below of some picture of the rod in action.
Seeing the rod brought back to life from such a sorry, delaiminated state makes all the work worth it. Although is it really work when the whole process is so enjoyable and the end result so rewarding? I have to say, when I saw the delamination, I didn't think I'd get to this point. Hopefully it will be fit for fishing for a few more decades now.
I took the Ledgerdale out earlier in the week to a small pond I know for its first outing with me as its owner. Although it is obviously designed for ledgering I float fished with it. I've never been one to stick to the rules. It was ideal for float fishing in the margin because being so short and hollow built makes it extremely light in the hand.
A nice big piece of spam on a size ten and a handful of corn scattered around the porcupine quill resulted in three carp and a few bream. Below of some picture of the rod in action.
Seeing the rod brought back to life from such a sorry, delaiminated state makes all the work worth it. Although is it really work when the whole process is so enjoyable and the end result so rewarding? I have to say, when I saw the delamination, I didn't think I'd get to this point. Hopefully it will be fit for fishing for a few more decades now.
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
You must be very proud, Young Sir ... I know I would be ! Fine work ... and a fine result. Hearty congratulations.
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Well done Jack.
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Well done Jack, yet another one brought back from the dead.
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Nice to see a photo of the rod back on the bank with a fish
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Thank you, Jack, for sharing your experiences with all the newbies on the TFF!
Now I'm almost upset that my cane rod doesn't suffer of delamination. There's still some work to do though. After the first fishing yesterday, I noticed that the butt section's ferrule needs reglueing.
Now I'm almost upset that my cane rod doesn't suffer of delamination. There's still some work to do though. After the first fishing yesterday, I noticed that the butt section's ferrule needs reglueing.
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Well done Jack, a great report from start to finish.
Looking forward to your next project..
Wal.
Looking forward to your next project..
Wal.
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Re: Aspindale Ledgerdale Restoration Including Bad Delamination
Thanks everyone.
Wal, the next one is already rewhipped and will be varnish over the weekend. I'm going to try that varnish that you recommend.
Wal, the next one is already rewhipped and will be varnish over the weekend. I'm going to try that varnish that you recommend.
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