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Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by QuinetteCane » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:35 pm

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I thought as this model has not been mentioned there may be some interest.
Bad light has affected picture quality and it had started to rain by the last frame.

Better mention it is 11'6" and 17.5oz not one to be held for long. although tucked under the arm improves matters.
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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by Dave Burr » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:55 pm

I used Fred's for a while during a fish together and I agree with what you say about the weight, its heavy!

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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by Bob Brookes » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:59 pm

I had a pair of them, I think 11 & 12 of a limited edition of 25. I never really got on with them and we soon parted as I had other rods I preferred using at the time. I thought they were a bit floppy.

The first time I came across them was at a NASA conference at Loughborough about 25 years ago where Fred was selling them. There was also a Bruce and Walker stand with the range of their new Hexagraph coarse rods. I bought from them an Avon, rated at 13/8 test. I still have that rod and it is still a favourite of mine for floater fishing. It has undergone a few changes to both rings, a screw winch fitting and now has brass reinforced ferrules, pucker!
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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by Tengisgol » Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:29 pm

I knew the chap who was helping to make them, I think it was Phil Healy from memory - does that name ring a bell with anyone?

I kicked myself a few years ago when an unused one came up on that auction site at £185. I delayed and in the morning it was gone!
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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by Michael » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:00 pm

Total agreement with Dave & Bob, I`d consider it probably one of the heaviest cane barbel rod going..... Bob, the Hexagraph Avon, I truly regret selling mine years ago, the preverbal doggies doo daas.....
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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by Fred Bonney » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:43 pm

I have a recent copy of that rod. It does feel floppy to handle but fishes well with fish up to 10lb seeming to iron out the floppiness.
It is heavy though!
Just out of interest QuinetteCanes, mine isn't a Scotty, but built by a bloke from Hull, is the separate handle weighted and generally on all models of this rod?

I didn't like it when I was blanking with it but now it's experienced fish I do.

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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by QuinetteCane » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:12 pm

Hi Fred.
The separate handle appears to be of solid wood, smothered each end with a translucent resin which makes it difficult
to be sure.
The handle alone weighs in at 7.5oz its POB is centred so not tail weighted and it has a massive 12mm ferrule.
I wouldnt say mine feels floppy just overlong(Oh Dear). I believe they have a reputation for being of variable quality.
I do like your sentiment sans catching !

It's never gonna match a Hexagraph but not sure that counts.

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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by Beresford » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:50 pm

Tengisgol wrote:I knew the chap who was helping to make them, I think it was Phil Healy from memory - does that name ring a bell with anyone?

I kicked myself a few years ago when an unused one came up on that auction site at £185. I delayed and in the morning it was gone!
Nobby or Chris Ball should be able to confirm for certain. I spoke with Phil at Scotties but I never knew his surname. I had various things on order with them but after waiting for thirteen months with no contact to explain the delays I cancelled. That was in the days when there weren't significant waiting lists or long lead times as there now are.
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Re: Fred Crouch Barbel

Post by Fred Bonney » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:07 am

QuinetteCane wrote:Hi Fred.
The separate handle appears to be of solid wood, smothered each end with a translucent resin which makes it difficult
to be sure.
The handle alone weighs in at 7.5oz its POB is centred so not tail weighted and it has a massive 12mm ferrule.
I wouldnt say mine feels floppy just overlong(Oh Dear). I believe they have a reputation for being of variable quality.
I do like your sentiment sans catching !

It's never gonna match a Hexagraph but not sure that counts.

In confidence, I own one or two, different animals entirely.

Thanks for responding. I just weighed my handle,(ok I've been down the pub, and don't want to keep getting up) which is cork. It's weight is a tad in excess of 8.5ozs, the pob is also centred.The ferrule is even bigger, internally 14mm (16mm). It appears that perhaps the interior "weight" is a "silver metal" tube throughout the length of the handle.This means that the cork is effectively a veneer of around 5mm.

Interesting

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