Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Dave Burr » Wed May 06, 2015 10:21 am

A mate of mine has targeted barbel on the fly and has had plenty to 9lbs and I've heard of some big bream taking flies on trout reservoirs so all species can be caught though quite how long it would take to notch up a full set is a difficult one. There was another chap (probably on another forum) who was trying to get all species on them and it is certainly a worth challenge.

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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Harry » Wed May 06, 2015 2:08 pm

I've had carp on the fly rod not not on a fly... I used a hair-rigged cork-ball and fed chum mixers, when the fish started taking the mixers I cast over them... had fish to 7lb last time out (a few years back now mind)
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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by MHC » Wed May 06, 2015 2:34 pm

One useful tip is to learn the 'mini' single spey cast with a single handed fly rod, very useful when fishing where there is not room to back cast.

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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Beresford » Wed May 06, 2015 6:00 pm

Dave Burr wrote:A mate of mine has targeted barbel on the fly and has had plenty to 9lbs and I've heard of some big bream taking flies on trout reservoirs so all species can be caught though quite how long it would take to notch up a full set is a difficult one. There was another chap (probably on another forum) who was trying to get all species on them and it is certainly a worth challenge.

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The size of the bream (and all the other coarse fish) caught on flies at Grafham has to be seen to be believed, they are quite literally dustbin lids. On occasion I've seen huge bream floundering in the waves if they get caught too near the surface when the wind picks up quickly.

If I really wanted to catch a record bream, roach, perch or zander then I'd be using a fly rod at Grafham to do it. I'm fairly sure record bream have been caught already but none of the fly fishermen are that bothered about it.
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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Firebird » Wed May 06, 2015 6:23 pm

I wouldn't be interested in catching big bream when I'm fly fishing for trout, but on a float it's another matter. Certain methods somehow go with the fish.

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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Scott » Wed May 06, 2015 6:55 pm

Firebird wrote:I wouldn't be interested in catching big bream when I'm fly fishing for trout, but on a float it's another matter. Certain methods somehow go with the fish.
Agreed FB, I've never felt the urge to fish for coarse fish on the fly other than chub when I lived in Wigan where there is a distinct lack of trout.

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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Phil Arnott » Wed May 06, 2015 8:06 pm

The reason why some anglers fish for coarse fish with fly is because they like a challenge.

It’s exactly the same as fly fishing for trout otherwise anglers would fish with bait or spinner which is much more effective.

Even fly fishing for trout can get too easy at times and get a bit boring.

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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Beresford » Wed May 06, 2015 8:26 pm

I think fishing afloat for reservoir trout with a team of nymphs has a lot in common with roach fishing, far more so than perhaps many died-in-the-wool trout fishermen may care to admit.

There have been times when I've been trout fishing where we've found a shoal of perch and have enjoyed perhaps 45 minutes of fun with them before moving off. When your catching fin perfect perch of over 2lbs, with jewel like colouring, I always think it's fabulous to be able to do so with a fly rod since it's such a lovely way to fish.

Similarly fly fishing for pike has become far more popular because, for some at least, it's a very pleasurable way to enjoy a day out on the water.
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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Firebird » Wed May 06, 2015 10:05 pm

Phil Arnott wrote:The reason why some anglers fish for coarse fish with fly is because they like a challenge.

It’s exactly the same as fly fishing for trout otherwise anglers would fish with bait or spinner which is much more effective.

Even fly fishing for trout can get too easy at times and get a bit boring.
I hate challenges!

I've had a go for a few coarse fish when I've seen them out trout fishing. Once saw some huge dace but they wouldn't take a fly. Haven't seen them since. But generally it has to feel right to me. The Thames is a nice river to try for rising dace on a summer's evening but I don't go there often enough to bother now.

As for trout being too easy at times, those are rare now, especially since the mayfly have gone downhill so much.

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Re: Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish

Post by Dave Burr » Thu May 07, 2015 11:16 am

In many ways a fly rod is the ultimate weapon for any species. A rod that weighs just a few ounces, centre pin reel - if you can get your line onto it - and the simplest form of fishing you like. You need good watercraft, sharp eyes and reactions with many species so it is a serious challenge to catch a lot of species. But I think I'll wait until my shoulder heals before undertaking it.

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