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What exactly is laying on...

Post by Snape » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:14 pm

Does laying on just mean float fishing with line lying on the bottom?
Is the lift method laying on?
What shot patterns are there and what difference do they make?
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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by Davyr » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:26 am

My understanding is that laying-on is any over-depth stillwater float method with more than an inch or so between the bottom shot and hook. If the shot is a single big one placed an inch from the hook, then it's the lift method!

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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by Gary Bills » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:15 am

My understanding is that laying on involves a noticeable angle between the float and the shot, so the float is not directly above the shot. This sets the float/bob some way from the baited hook and baited area and, in some cases, can help to allay the fears of suspicious fish. This is what I mean by laying on, in any case.

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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by MGs » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:20 am

I was always told that laying on was over depth fishing, where the float is not cocked by the shot. The shot required to cock the float are resting on the bottom.

"A method of freshwater fishing in which split shot are set a short distance above the hook and are allowed to lie on the bottom with the bait" Inside back cover of part 18 Fisherman's handbook

Unlike the lift method the float is fished top and bottom, not bottom only
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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by Gary Bills » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:32 am

Of course, attaching a float top and bottom doesn't come into it with a sight-bob...

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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by Snape » Mon May 07, 2012 11:47 am

Like this?

http://i44.tinypic.com/1z5p0xu.jpg

or this but it says it is stret pegging
http://angling4sport.bravehost.com/r_t/ ... stret.html

I'm not sure of the difference between stret pegging and laying on... :think:
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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by Snape » Mon May 07, 2012 12:15 pm

I have traditionally been a bottom fisher in moving water but would like to use these methods much more from this summer.
Off to get out Dick's book.
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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by Mark » Mon May 07, 2012 1:30 pm

Snape wrote:I have traditionally been a bottom fisher in moving water but would like to use these methods much more from this summer.
Off to get out Dick's book.
I have just read the full article in my copy of the book.
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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by Davyr » Mon May 07, 2012 4:19 pm

A diagram on page 156 of Bernard Venables' "The Angler's Companion" (Allen & Unwin, 1959) shows three variations of "Laying-on", which are captioned as follows:

LAYING ON:

A is a float leger with light tackle in still water.
B is partial laying-on.
C is complete laying-on with float well tilted.

All this really proves is that different people mean different things by the same term.

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Re: What exactly is laying on...

Post by J.T » Tue May 08, 2012 8:39 pm

Always thought that was just a bit of artistic licence to be honest, to make it appear more dramatic. :)
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